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From: James Trimm <jstrimm@h...>
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Subject: [chofjclist] Re: Lamsa Aramaic Trans. -The Needle and the Rope
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>In a message dated 12/04/1999 12:57:59 PM Central Standard Time,
><< Subj: Fw: [chofjclist] Re: James Trimm New Testament Aramaic Trans.
> Date: 12/04/1999 12:57:59 PM Central Standard Time
> From: jrgriffith@j...
> To: earlyrr@a...
> Matthew 19:24) And again I say unto you,
> It is easier for a camel to go through the eye
> of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the
> kingdom of God.
> (Mark 10:24) It is easier for a camel to go through
> the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into
> the kingdom of God.
> (Luke 18:25) For it is easier for a camel to go through
> a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the
> kingdom of God.
> From "Gospel Light" by George Lamsa, pg. 117.
> "The Aramaic word 'gamla' means camel, a large rope,
> and a beam. The meaning of the word is determined
> by its content. If the word riding or burden occurs
> then 'gamla' means a camel, but when the eye of a
> needle is mentioned gamla more correctly means
> a rope. There is no connection anywhere in Aramaic
> speech or literature between camel and needle, but
> there is a definite connection between rope and needle.
> Eastern women when purchasing thread often say, "It
> is a rope, I cannot use it", which means it is too thick.
> Then again, there are ropes in every Eastern home, used
> to tie up burdens on the backs of men and of animals.
> When not used, the rope is hung on the wall or laid in
> a corner of the house.
> "The discussion about the rich man probably took place
> in the house. Jesus pointed to the rope in the house to
> illustrate what he was saying in condemning the greed
> of Eastern rich men, who had acquired their wealth
> unjustly. He said, "It is easier for a rope to go through the
> eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the
> kingdom of God." Then again there are different kinds
> of needles in use in the East; tiny needles for fine
> embroidery, the common needle for sewing which is
> larger, and the big needle about five or seven inches
> long which working men ofter carry fastened to their
> garments or attached to the rope. A good sized cord
> could easily be passed through this needle, which is
> used chiefly for sewing large bags, rugs, and tents
> woven of goat's hair.
> "Biblical students have suggested that when Jesus
> referred to 'needle eye' he meant the little gate in the
> wall. As there is no such gate in any oriental city called
> 'needle eye' where camels could pass through, this
> interpretation is incorrect. Some of the ancient walled
> cities in the east still remain the same as in the ancient
> days. They have several large entrances at various
> parts of the wall known as gates. Men, camels, and all
> animals enter and leave through them. They are the
> only possible place a camel could enter. The gospel
> says nothing of such a gate and plainly refers to the
> eye of a needle.
Yes I will discuss this one tonight
> "The word 'gamla' is also used in Matthew 23:24, but
> here it means camel because Jesus was talking about
> 'baka', gnat, and contrasting it with camel........"
> There are many interesting things in these books
> on Hebrew idioms and sayings.
> In Christ,
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