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From:  James Trimm <jstrimm@h...>
Date:  Sat Sep 16, 2000  10:18 pm
Subject:  Re: [IsraeLight] Beit Netzarim Yeshiva


This kind of thing has no place here.

We are already in the process of communicating with our students.

I resent any implication that we would or have attempted to defraud anyone.

The law in question is unconstitutional and is already cortrently being
challenged in court.
Texas is one of the only states that does not recognize that the State
cannot regulate
the training of clergy.

We have already taken steps to conform to this unconstitutional law.

Kathryn states:

James stated to an official that his students
did not want a refund. I dont think that the students
were made aware that they could have one,
which is the purpose of this post, to protect
believers from being defrauded.

This is another of Kathryn's lies. Kathryn has a copy of the letter from
the state.
She knows that we cannot send out the letter to our students until it is first
aproved by the state. None-the-less any of our students can verify that
they have been made aware of this entire situation including the refund
issue. NO ONE has been defrauded.
In fact all of our students already knew that we are not accrettied or
licensed by the state because we have made this very clear. In most states
Seminaries may freely operate without government regulation. This has not
baan an attempt on our part to defraud anyone, it has been an example of a
clearly unconstitutional attempt by the state to regulate the training of

There heve already been changes made to bring Beit Netzarim into conformity
to the Texas law. In fact I believe that Beit Netzarim is currently in
conformity with the Texas law.

Also Beit Netzarim Yeshiva will soon be moving out of the State of Texas
and be moving
to one of the other states most which do not have this unconstitutional law.

Our prayers will remain with those who are currently fighting this law as


>To the members of IsraeLight forum, I have seen several people inquire
>about James Trimm's Beit Netzarim Yeshiva. I have also seen one person
>mention that they are a student at that yeshiva. Below is a letter I
>received from an open records request, from the Texas Higher Education
>Coordinating Board about the Beit Netzarim Yeshiva. Since this yeshiva is
>not licensed to issue degrees, is not accredited and does not have a
>religious exemption, the state is requiring certain steps to be taken to
>remedy this situation, one of which is to notify the yeshiva student and
>graduates that they are entitled to a full refund for any and all monies
>paid out to the yeshiva. James stated to an official that his students did
>not want a refund. I dont think that the students were made aware that
>they could have one, which is the purpose of this post, to protect
>believers from being defrauded.
>I do not want to start a war here, so I am just posting the letter to
>inform you of the situation. I will not respond to any follow up posts, in
>order to keep peace. Anyone wanting to send a comment or ask a question to
>me, can do so by e-mailing me at purnhrt(type out @ symbol) If
>you contact James Trimm for a full refund and he does not give one, then
>you can contact David Linkletter of the Texas Higher Education
>Coordinating Board at (512) 427-6225, or e-mail him at linklettdd(type
>out @ symbol)
>Shalom, Kathryn
>Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board letter to SANJ
>Mr. James S. Trimm
>Beit Netzarim Yeshiva
>Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism
>Box 471
>Hurst, Texas 76053
>Dear Mr. Trimm:
> It has come to our attention that the Beit Netzarim Yeshiva is
>operating in Hurst, Texas and is granting degrees, offering to grant
>degrees, and granting credits alleged to be applicable to degrees. The
>Texas Education Code, Chapter 61, Subchapter G, provides that to grant
>degrees in the state, an institution must either have a certificate of
>authority from the Coordinating Board or be exempt from the law by being
>accredited by a recognized agency. A review of our records indicates that
>Beit Netzarim Yeshiva has not been issued a certificate of authority and
>is not accredited by an agency recognized by the Texas Higher Education
>Coordinating Board.
> Please be advised that violation of this law can subject an
>institution to administrative fines ranging from $1,000 to $5,000 for
>awarding or offering to award degrees. Each degree awarded or offered
>constitutes a separate offense. In addition, the Coordinating Board may
>seek injunctive relief against you.
> This letter is intended to provide you with the opportunity to remedy
>your actions which are in violation of the state law. Please contact us in
>writing within fifteen days of your receipt of this letter to detail your
>plans to remedy these violations. At minimum, please describe how you will:
>(1) immediately cease awarding or offering to award degrees; (2)
>immediately cease offering credit towards degrees; (3) by letter inform
>your graduates, students, and potential students that you have no degree
>granting authority; and (4) by letter offer full refunds of all tuition,
>fees, and other monies paid by your graduates and students. The content of
>the letter informing your students of your status and the offer of
>distribution. Failure to remedy the actions could result in the
>issuance of administrative fines and referral of this case to the Texas
>Attorney General's Office for injuctive relief.
> Enclosed is a copy of the Coordinating Board rules implementing the
>law. If eligible, you may apply for a certificate of authority to grant
>degrees in Texas. However, an application will not substitute for your
>implementing the remedies listed above.
>This letter was signed by Don W. Brown
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