My 5th reply to Michael Detwiller

Subject: Beit Din Decision
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:53:09 -0500
From: purnhrt <>

Shalom b'YHWH
Michael, I have been going through every post,  from aug. 99 to jan. 00.
I wanted to see what the situation was at the forum, that caused the
Beit Din decision on the 12th of jan., to disaccomidate [Mrs. H.],
and then [Mr. H.] on the 13th.

When I posted the evidence about James Trimm being Rabbi Yosef, and that
he had indeed advocated the Book of Mormon, he sent me an e-mail, saying
that there was more to this situation with [Mrs. H.] and proceeded
to list a number of charges against her. This was also done by you, in
your reply to my forum post. You said that you had proof for these
statements that you made against her. So I replied to your reply,
stating who I was, that I was not knowledgeable of the other situations,
but to please send what proof you had. You sent nothing. James increased
the charges with his revised letter. Neither was evidence provided in
order to get the [H's] banned from the assembly they attend.

This led me to consider, especially in light of the fact that I was lied
about repeatedly, that perhaps there was no basis for the charges
against the [H's]. This is why I went through, post by post, for 6
months of posts, to see what was going on. I have made inquires into
these events. I have come to the conclusion, that there was no evidence
against them for the decision that the Beit Din made.

I said in my first post that [Mrs. H.] was owed a public apology at that
forum for the slander against her when she stated that James Trimm was
Rabbi Yosef. I stated that again in my e-mail to the Beit Din asking
them to investigate this matter. I stated it again when you asked what
grievances I had and I listed them all out, but this time, having
investigated the situation, I have seen that an apology to [Mrs. H.] is not
enough. [Mr. H.] is also due one and the ruling needs to be dropped.

Now I can see why you would like to separate the two issues, the [H's]
situation and the slander and lies against me. But I dont agree. My
involvement began when I defended a lie against [Mrs. H.], which needs to
be repented of publicly, since the lies and slander were public. Then
James involved me further when he started lying and slandering me. He
involved me even further by stating to me more charges against [Mrs. H.],
as you did as well. To make such statements, you need to have proof.
None has been provided, as I stated earlier. But there is proof at the
forum, in numerous posts, which I have copied, that the [H's] were
unjustly tried and charged, not to mention slandered. I have copied all
these posts and am prepared to make an update to the website, involving
the status of the [H's] situation. Many people have asked the
question, since James Trimm has proved to be false in this matter. I
have written to [Mr. H.] and he has given me permission to
address this issue, so that their names will be cleared.

What becomes obvious in their situation is your involvement. Where you
were not involved in what James did to me, to my knowledge, you are
involved with the lies and slander against the [H's] and the Beit Din
decision. This needs to be made right in the eyes of YHWH. They are owed
an apology and a dropping of the Beit Din ruling against them. I hope
that you will address this situation and bring shalom to the matter.
Shalom, Kathryn

YHWH bless you and guard you. YHWH make His face to shine upon you and
show you favor. YHWH lift up His face upon you and give you shalom.